Milton Keynes, 17-18.3.07

[Eliot Kennedy]

2. Becky

The wisdom of the day: subbuteoplayers do it in the scoringzone.


I'm sooooo good  :lol:

 :lol:  :wink:

And I thought you were a nice boy Hönkki!!

[Zinga]

I did not wait for his block flick after taking off the free-standing keeper (I was trying to get the ball upfield quickly))

This I think we have not always remembered in the FISTF-league. I for one didn't even know one had to wait, when taking the keeper off. By the way, is it the same in positioning a player from either side? I mean that you have to wait for the positioning, if the ball is stopped, and then wait for the defender's flick.

From the rules:
6.2.3. The attacker does not have to wait for the defender to take a
block-flick. However, in the following situations, the referee
shall allow the defender time to make a block-flick.
- Placing and raising of playing figures (when the ball is stationary)
- Limited flick
- Substitution of the goalkeeper
- Removing of the spare-goalkeeper
- Before the tickflick is taken and after the attacker has taken the tick-flick
- After flick-in.

In addition of the rules, you should wait for the defenders flick after ball-touch of the goalkeeper (when the ball is stationary).

So in summary, the placing or positioning and goalkeeper touch are the only cases when you can keep on attacking until the ball is stationary.

Suomeksi sama: Hyökkääjän on odotettava puolustusnäpäytystä seuraavissa tilanteissa:
- Pelifiguuria nostettaessa ja asetettaessa (pallon pysähdyttyä)
- maalivahdin kosketus palloon (pallon pysähdyttyä)
- rajoitettu näpäytys (hyökkäysnäpäytys vastustajan maalin takaa)
- Rikkoutuneen maalivahdin vaihtaminen
- Irtomaalivahdin poistaminen kentältä
- Ennen ja jälkeen paitsiostapoistonäpäytyksen
- Sivurajan jälkeen.

[Eliot Kennedy]

Yes, Zinga is 100% right. Not sure if it was the same for Puppe, but in ALL my matches at Milton Keynes the referee would say 'block' or 'block flick' after a save.

The problem I had in this game is that the ref did not say 'block' after I took the spare goalkeeper off, and them I flicked again before he could take his block flick.....

[Rossonero]

Kiitos vastauksesta.

- Limited flick

- rajoitettu näpäytys (hyökkäysnäpäytys vastustajan maalin takaa)

Mikä tämä on käytännössä? Never heard of this one.

Not sure if it was the same for Puppe, but in ALL my matches at Milton Keynes the referee would say 'block' or 'block flick' after a save.

I hope they remembered that the ball has to be stopped. I suppose the referee should say it at that point.

So, my goal against Zinga last season was valid as we also decided then.

[Epis]

Kiitos vastauksesta.

- Limited flick

- rajoitettu näpäytys (hyökkäysnäpäytys vastustajan maalin takaa)

Mikä tämä on käytännössä? Never heard of this one.

If i remember correct 'Limited flick' means situation where attacker makes a flick and denies defenders access to goalkeeping, or something like that.

[Zinga]

- Limited flick
- rajoitettu näpäytys (hyökkäysnäpäytys vastustajan maalin takaa)

Mikä tämä on käytännössä? Never heard of this one.

Rules quote: "
5.4.1. If the attacker, when attempting to flick a playing figure at the ball, needs to take up a position behind the playing board that
requires the defender to move out of convenient reach of the
goalkeeper, the referee shall allow the attacker to make his/her
flick, then allow the defender time to take his/her block-flick.
5.4.2. It must be clear that the concept of limited flick may not be
extended to other situations where the attacker does not hinder
the goalkeeping of the defender. There shall never be a limited
flick when the attacker is not physically positioned behind the
defender's goalline, or when the attacker is not actually hindering
the goalkeeping of the defender."

Suomenkielisestä sääntötiivistelmästä: "Rajoitettu näpäytys: Jos hyökkääjä näpäyttää siten, että hän estää asettumisellaan puolustajan maalivahdin pelaamisen, on hänen odotettava puolustajan puolustusnäpäytystä."

Not sure if it was the same for Puppe, but in ALL my matches at Milton Keynes the referee would say 'block' or 'block flick' after a save.

So, my goal against Zinga last season was valid as we also decided then.

The goal was of course valid, but the case then was not the keeper. I used couple of seconds trying to figure out, if one must wait for the block flick in case of positioning  :wink:

[Rossonero]

Thanks, the limited flick is now clear to me, too.

It is bit sad that the metal keepers bounce the ball so hard that it is hard to repeat that kind of goal. Or is it?  

Well, we shall see on thursday, when we meet. But it will be more difficult on the harder shots.